I was recently interviewed for a podcast about Mary Kay, done by our friends at “Cult or Just Weird.” Chris and Kayla like to talk about weird stuff that borders on cult-like behavior, so it should come as no surprise that they wanted to talk about Mary Kay.

The main thing they wanted to talk about is why women leave Mary Kay and say positive things about their experience. Since nearly everyone loses money in MLM, how positive could it really be? First up is Chris’s mom, who was a consultant a long time ago. Then I got to give my two cents, basically telling Chris and Kayla that it’s a whole lot of brainwashing and a need to focus on the positive aspects of Mary Kay.

Check out the podcast here.

(And for fun, they’ve got some old seminar pictures posted over on Instagram!)