Pink Truth is Embarrassing
A recent comment was left (and then deleted) on our video Jamie Taylor Mary Kay Admits Her Downline Ordered Product to Finish Her Goal. The comment was left by Emily Schulte, a Mary Kay consultant in the Pamela Shaw area who has been in MK for years, but never seems to be able to move up. Seems she’s not really working her business, and yet she wants to give us business advice?
In any business there is an investment. Period. What she’s saying is there are people who have ordered more as a choice. No one asked them to do that. In any company you order a product you intend to sell before you’ve made any profit. That would be like us buying from Target or Walmart before they produce their product. That doesn’t make any sense.
That’s how it works, and she’s just taking time to thank her people who have invested in their businesses. If people aren’t selling the product they invest in and being wise with their money to pay off that debt, that’s their own fault at the end of the day.
When people rack up debt and don’t work a good business plan to make a profit, that’s where people get bitter and create hate pages like this. Pink truth has always been embarrassing to read. It’s never changed my mind, instead it’s only more revealing that you yourself are a hurt, wounded person, attacking people you don’t even know. Move on with your life. You’re being exactly what you’re trying to promote not to be. ✌🏻
Curious, isn’t it, that Pink Truth “has always been embarrassing to read,” and yet Emily has been reading it for years.
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“Pink truth has always been embarrassing to read.” Hide it then. Don’t tell us you’re reading pink truth. Why are you reading pink truth if you think that you know the truth? Why waste your time? Unless… you’re conflicted about MK. Maybe we’re right. I was in your shoes. I saw things that bothered me but it took something big for me to get out. I saw things in MK that didn’t make sense over the years but I went back to what MK was telling me. They couldn’t be lying to me. They want me to do well and make money… for them. You can continue reading. It’s okay to have doubts about MK. They are not thinking of your good but theirs. One day you will have had enough and leave. We’ll be here thanks to Tracy. The truth is not what you’re getting in MK. The truth is here in our experiences that are sharing with you. We’re not making money off of you. Who is?
Oh no. I hope this post doesn’t come up when people Google Emily’s name!
Just searched “ Emily Schulte Mary Kay” and this post comes in at number three on Google!
“In any company you order a product you intend to sell before you’ve made any profit.”
But at what point with all the unopened boxes stacked up in your basement do you realize, you have made zero profit on all of that ordering. The upline is cheering you for “investing in your business” because your continued “investment” and debt is commission for her.
In case you were unsure how pyramid schemes work.
Oh, Emily. How are those Focus Folders working for you? And your 90 Day Planner? What about your enormous Seminar area awards banquet fees?
If you’ll just consider for a moment who is profiting from all that, then do the math multiplying it out by how many THOUSANDS of Consultants and Directors are in the Shaw Area, you’ll realize you’ve fallen into the same trap you’re lecturing us on. To be included and get your picture and a photo button with Pam, you had to order or recruit something, didn’t you? To not feel scolded, you followed her claims that her products work and you bought them.
I could list many, many more examples, but, Emily, you’re doing exactly what you tell us not to do. You’re making Pam more money than what she makes off your orders. You’re doing whatever she or Cindy Mac or any new hotshots she has coming up, and you FIND A WAY to see your name on her list. Nope, no one makes you, do they? Or, do they??
The pressure to conform, the desire to not be left out, the hope of a conversation where she gives you the secret to moving from where you are to the suit or wherever—it all makes you make decisions. Maybe that’s why you haven’t moved along, and I do commend you for that. Unfortunately, and very sadly, those pressures are what keep people in MK for far too long. I chased hope and those secret tips and tricks to the point I emulated people who were where I wanted to be. Pam included.
When you register for Career Conference, remember my words. What will you be pressured/encouraged/led to do before your arrive? How badly will you want it? Then, when you get there, look around and notice what cars people are driving right after they say they’re on pace for a record year or how much money they’re making. That’s the truest, most current way to gauge if they’re truthful. Don’t forget Cadillac Directors can include those barely scraping by and aren’t taking home more than $48,000/year.
Better get to working on that Book 10. A luncheon awaits you.
The pressure to conform – that hits the nail on the head RIGHT THERE. You don’t want to be left out, shamed that YOU didn’t do X to get to Y (a luncheon, special event, etc.). Being left out of the “Kool Kids Klub” is awful, and you just can’t stand to be watching from the outside, can you?
Re: recording-setting years and Cadillac directors’ income – I’m going to say this once more for those lurking and claiming they make SO MUCH MONEY in MK: I make more as a registered nurse in a year than I ever did in MK. I’ve recently taken a travel contract (found one at the small hospital where my parents live, so it was a no-brainer), and I’ve already been asked about extending. So in my 18-20 weeks here, I will make about twice what the average Cadillac director makes. Think about that before you MK/MLM bots try to tell nurses that they will make more in your pyramid than they will at their jobs (that also provide benefits).
I know what nurses are making across the country, and I also know not one of them is scared of chargebacks, surprise car payments, or loss of title. Showing up to a real career isn’t dependent upon promises being kept by anyone, and you don’t suffer if people around you quit. No shows, carrying around bags of heavy mirrors and trays, hoping you get future business with new bookings, and reading yet another self-help book because, surely, it’s just you that needs fixing. NONE OF THAT HAPPENS IN NURSING.
Shame on those of you still in MK that prey upon nurses or bash that profession like you’re living a better life. To the new grads making $100,000/year+, bravo!
Good for you! A friend of mine is a traveling nurse and they make BEAUCOUP bucks! Salary, stipends for housing, food and travel….
Travel nursing isn’t for everyone. I did it back in 2017 well before the pandemic, and I made really good money. Right now, we have a HUGE supply and demand problem with nurses – supply is low and demand is insanely high.
I’m working my tail off – about 45-50 hours a week, and I’m getting overtime pay. The pay has been some nice cheddar to help pay for my doctorate.
“In any business there is an investment. Period.”
Sure, but ordering inventory you don’t need is not investment; it’s financial suicide. Any real business knows this.
“What she’s saying is there are people who have ordered more as a choice. No one asked them to do that.”
Oh, come on. Of course they were asked to do that; otherwise, why would they? Even if Jamie didn’t call them directly begging for orders (a.k.a. “dialing for dollars,” how many times have you done that?), she for sure let it be known how close she was to hitting that Big Goal. That’s asking the people under her for orders, every bit as much as setting up a GoFundMe is asking for donations. It’s ludicrous for you to pretend otherwise.
Talk about embarrassing to read.
Just In Time inventory has been the industry standard for years, if not decades, because companies are not making a profit storing items they don’t need in the foreseeable future.
It seems outdated to me that all these people parrot the idea of ordering excess as a way to make a profit when we know that’s not going to happen. It just re-enforces that buying not selling is the endgame of MK.
Emily, reading your post reminded me of something Mark Twain said years ago: “It’s better to remain silent & be thought a fool than to open your mouth & remove all doubt.” ‘Nuff said!!!
Please. Those consultants were not “investing in their businesses” they were investing in getting Jamie to National. And the fact that Mary Kay bases sales numbers on wholesale orders instead of ACTUAL retail sales to customers is a violation of the FTC rules for direct selling companies. I know you’re here reading this. I know you have doubts whispering in the back of your mind. Mary Kay isn’t an ethical company. It’s all a facade.
I want to like this 1000 times! “They were investing in getting Jamie to National” and ignored the harm that they were doing to their own finances. The real defination of MLM is Most Lose Money.
“ Those consultants were not “investing in their businesses” they were investing in getting Jamie to National.”
Exactly! If those consultants really needed to order all of that product at that time, they’d have already done it WITHOUT Jamie begging or guilting them to. Hey, you’re a consultant that sold a TON on the eve of the end of the period in which Jamie needed your orders? Well cool! BUT any consultant who didn’t already NEED that product BUT ordered it just because Jamie needed it…well, they’ve been had. Full stop.
“In any business there is an investment. Period. What she’s saying is there are people who have ordered more as a choice. No one asked them to do that. In any company you order a product you intend to sell before you’ve made any profit. That would be like us buying from Target or Walmart before they produce their product. That doesn’t make any sense. That’s how it works, and she’s just taking time to thank her people who have invested in their businesses.” —
THEIR businesses? Okay, but what kind of business is Jamie in? As in, how does she make most of her money? How did she get promoted to NSD rank? Was it selling out her own Target store to retail customers and managing her inventory?
Does Jamie’s “business” and the business described in the quote match?
How is the money calculated to pay Jamie, and where is that money sourced from? Do we think Jamie wants that calculation to be as big as possible?
“ That would be like us buying from Target or Walmart before they produce their product.”
Oh sweet Jesus is she serious? No, Emily, it’s not. At all. When “we” buy from Target or Walmart, “we” are something called ‘end consumers’. You are equating your placing ‘wholesale’ orders (lulz) with actual consumers buying products from a retailer. Do you understand the problem here? Eh, that’s rhetorical…or you wouldn’t still, years later, believe that MK considers your purchases from them to be true wholesale inventory purchases that will be then sold to a consumer. You, dear, are the consumer. MK makes all the profit they intend to off of your orders; whether you actually resell it at the magical “50 percent” or burn it in your backyard fire pit means nothing to them.
The only time I’ve ordered before some-one has produced their product is the produce bushels I got from a local organic farm. I had to pay half up front and the rest half way during the 16 week season. I got a refund for any baskets not up to par or missing due to weather. I also got extra baskets if the season was extended at either end for free. Sadly the baskets are too big for one person and so I will be limiting myself to supporting my friend at the local farmers market.
Back in my mattress industry days, we did actually produce the mattresses after the orders were placed. But the reasons mainly were that we allowed our customers (who were retailers; I was a manufacturer’s sales rep) to do so is that we customized the products with distinctive ticking, stitching, and labels.
Back then it was, “orders in by Monday, shipping by Friday”. But again, while our customers (the retail stores) did stock some of the most popular models to have for immediate pick-up/delivery, they NEVER bought tons of inventory that they wouldn’t be able to sell. They ordered the minimum of what they needed.
And if I’d ever gone to any of them begging them to order way more than they could sell just so I could achieve a goal of some type…they’d have laughed me out of their stores. I actually had a few who ordered more than they really needed and I tried to talk them out of it. I never wanted any client of mine to be loaded up with product that would be hard for them to sell.
Funny how MK corp and its directors think this inventory loading is appropriate and necessary for their own “retailers” (aka IBCs), considering that it DOES NOT WORK for nearly every other business.