1. So this how that “executive pay for part-time hours” is working out for them, huh?

   I’m so glad I didn’t follow my director’s advice to leave my full-time job to pursue directorship.

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2. Straight from the horse’s mouth. Kind of hard to keep pretending that the company is all about empowering women and sisterhood and stuff when official company literature says “if you want more money, recruit more people.”

   “Besides those situations, if you call Consultants to order then you start undermine your Leadership ability to motivate and train her. She will start believe that you only call when YOU need her to order.” Yes, how very dare they believe something that’s true!!!

   “Then you will start to lose the base Consultants you have AND you aren’t growing your unit. End of Directorship… and understandable because you aren’t doing the job intended.” Translation: IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT! YOU DESERVE TO FAIL, YOU FAILURE!!!

   “Our job is to recruit!!, sell and train…in that order.” Straight from the horse’s mouth. Kind of hard to keep pretending that the company is all about empowering women and sisterhood and stuff when official company literature says “if you want more money, recruit more people”, isn’t it?

   Although “sell” doesn’t belong on that list at all and “train” comes in a distant zillionth after “Recruit!! Recruit!! Recruit!! Recruit!! …” I can’t see how you can expect to sell anything if your downline isn’t trained on the product. As a customer, if I ask for a fragrance-free moisturizer for normal/oily, sensitive skin with SPF 25 that absorbs instantly because I hate that “lotion-y” feeling, and the answer is a panicked look and “ummmmm”, your company ain’t getting a nickel out of me.

   I mean, I get that the makeup is just window dressing to keep them from being labelled a pyramid scheme, but it would make the illusion a little more convincing…

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3. “Our job is to recruit!!, sell and train…in that order.”

   According to the FTC, this is the telltale sign of an illegal pyramid scheme. Actual product sales to outside folks must take priority over recruiting to stay legit.

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4. I once heard a director say something to the effect of ‘as a director, you should always act as though you’re in DIQ’. Recruit, recruit, recruit…but we’re not an MLM!

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   • “you should always act as though you’re in DIQ”

     I’m getting a stomach ulcer just thinking about that.

     It really does cause us (and by us I mean other humans, PT members or not) to wonder why anyone would subject themselves to this never ending situation for barely minimum wage?

     Perhaps part of it is that any and every MK #bossbabe can CLAIM to have her own business and set her own hours. (As if, but they do). And perhaps most important, have zero idea as to how many hours (and dollars…bye bye fifty percent profit LOLOL) she spends on her biznezz.

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5. “Remember the company is serious about missing $4,500 two months in a row…you do and you are done.”

   But please, tell me again how you own your own business and don’t have a boss.

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   • No quotas!!!

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6. so if you don’t have the $4500, you cough it up yourself, yes? so Director is essentially a vanity title and with a vanity car since you end up paying for that too.

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7. This company is fond of claiming “Your inventory is your ATM,” but this letter—from an insider, mind you—reveals that to be a lie. The market for MK products is thin and way, way oversaturated with sellers. And yet the key to achieving is not to sell more, but to recruit more.

   In MLM there’s no such thing as being fully staffed. A real company has to limit hiring if the customer base doesn’t justify more salespeople. Not so in MLM, because the salespeople are the customers. When a consultant buys inventory, MK has closed their sale. They don’t track what happens next because they don’t care and don’t want to know. It’s called plausible deniability.

   Mary Kay Corp. makes a big deal of being debt-free, but that’s just another dodge. Mary Kay should be wallowing in debt, but they aren’t because they’ve unloaded that debt onto their millions of consultants. What a heartless scam.

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   • “The market for MK products is thin and way, way oversaturated with sellers.”

     But the products LITERALLY FLY OFF THE SHELVES!

     *during earthquakes and/or tornados*

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8. I work as an underwriter at a financial institution, and the number of loan apps that come through at the end of the month with “self-employed at [MLM]” as employment is absolutely ridiculous.

   It’s even crazier close to Seminar, the area has a decent sized MK unit and we end up fielding apps left and right for the same dollar amount as MK order brackets, some with the local Director as co-signer for a consultant! (Most fall apart at the Proof of Income stage) I have seen people take out home equity loans to make production, it’s sickening to think they were encouraged to do it so uplines can get paid.

   Been lurking on PT for years, my mother and aunts were in and out of MLMs most of my life, but MK did the worst emotional and spiritual damage of them all.

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   • Just to earn a stage-walk or a bumble-bee pin. Tragic.

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   • Wow. Thanks for sharing!

     The Kaybots will argue that this is just one bad director/area/whatever…when I bet it is much more common than we think.

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9. I’m gonna need GMB SUCCESS to calm down with the caps lock 😬

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   • I was thinking about GMB_SUCCESS, too, reading all those all-caps glurges.

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   • GMB NSD AMERICUS IZ PINEAPPLE OF SUCKSESS IN MARIE KAY!!!!!

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