Who Is Making Money In Jamie Taylor’s Area?

Written by Frosty Rose

Spoiler: Almost no one.

March results are out for Jamie Taylor’s Verge Area top consultants (Red Jackets). I love these newsletters because they put real numbers on the fluff that nationals and directors promote. And the numbers? They ain’t great. Keep in mind, these are the top 5-10% of consultants, those with 3+ active team members. (In other words, if these ladies aren’t making any money, the other 90-95% of the area isn’t either.)

Four of the top five March teams are led by women who also appear in the Red Sellers section. This gives us insight into what their teams ordered versus what they ordered personally and lets us calculate their commissions.

Heather Burke is at top of the charts on both “sales” (orders) and team production. Her team total was $4,163, but she personally ordered $2,880 of that. If she had five personal recruits ordering at least $225 in March (likely, given the totals), she would have earned a 13% commission on the balance of $1,283 for a grand total of $166.79 for the entire month’s work. Definitely executive income right there!

Using the same math, Andy Jo Watson’s team only ordered $1,080. Since there’s no way that 5 team members ordered $225 with those numbers, she earned 9% for a  total commission check of $97.20.

Anna Duke’s team ordered $1,442, so her check was either $187.46 or $129.78.

Despite ranking fourth on the leaderboard, Shenika Bowles did a bit better, only ordering $1,096 personally. Her team ordered $2,767, so her commission was $359.71.

Before the Kay Bots come at me with “but they’re making money on the sale of the product!” They’re not. You know they’re not, we know they’re not, they know they’re not. Mary Kay pretends these consultants sold all the product they ordered and sold it all at full price. Neither happens.

Also…. Many of these women are in DIQ, so they’re “stretching” their personal production and their credit card limits to the max.

For Heather Burke to have sold everything she ordered, she would have had to sell $5,760 in the month of March. That’s $1,440 per week or $186 per day IF she worked all 31 days in the month of March. That’s a successful party every single day of the month. Which she did not do.

But let’s give her the benefit of the doubt. What if she had sold all that product, and earned the fictional 40% profit that consultants claim? She would have profited $2,304. That’s not chump change. But it’s also not the executive income that consultants and directors sell to new recruits. And, again, to achieve that, she would have had to hold a party every single day in March without giving away or discounting any product.

Can you imagine the amount of work it would take to earn that $76 per day? Because it’s not just that one party per day… it’s the hustling to find people to hold parties, booking twice as many as you want to hold, coaching the hostesses to make sure they get their friends to show up, getting to the party early to set up, breaking down afterward, cleaning your materials and replenishing supplies, and the list goes on….

Back in the real world, Heather likely sold a small fraction of that and ordered the rest to “top up” her production and stay in DIQ. And the fraction she did sell, she made maybe 10-20% profit, not the lauded 40-50%.

I do have a few questions for Heather, Andy Jo, Anna and Shenika:

  • Was your pittance of a “love check” worth selling out the women who trust you to offer them a way to earn money?
  • Were you honest about how much you sell, and how little you profit from those sales?
  • How does it feel to profit from the losses of your recruits?
  • And how long will you continue churning before you do yourselves and your recruits a favor and step off the hamster wheel?

None of these questions will be asked or answered. Because all of these women in DIQ are telling themselves that *they* aren’t making money yet because they haven’t done the right things. And once they get to director they *will* be making money. And they don’t want to ruin things for potential recruits who *surely will* make money, so let’s not tell them the hard truth. They’ve fooled themselves into believing that this is a real business and that they’re actually selling an opportunity to the women they recruit.

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9 COMMENTS

  1. It’s a better gig to go get an hourly job than to chase this rainbow. It’s not glamorous, but it’s what I did (as a second job!) to finally pay off all my MK “success” (“success” is a synonym for “credit card debt” in MK).
    How do they keep this going?
    The love bombing. So many women are starved for attention (speaking from experience), they’ll do anything for that recognition.
    They even train on it – the five Love Languages – that translates to “find the most successfully way to manipulate people.” Or they might train on DISC so they know exactly what kind of love bomb she needs to hear.
    It is clever, and very, very sick.
    Great article, Frosty.

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    • Over the last 19 years that PT has been around, we’ve repeatedly done the math and come to the conclusion that even a minimum wage job would be better.

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  2. Chelsea Adkins, subject of yesterday’s post, is in Jamie’s area and conspicuous by her absence, except for being way down the Court of Sharing list. Ouch.

    • Directors have their own recognition newsletter which isn’t shared publicly (probably because the numbers are so inconsistent!). This one only highlights consultants, except in Court of Sharing, likely because there aren’t enough consultants ranking in that court.

  3. I love these breakdowns, Frosty.

    There are a couple other things rarely mentioned. One is the cold-calling “hit” rate: the percentage of folks you aproach who will agree to attend a party. Industry standard is about 2%. This means for every 100 women you approach, only 2 will show interest.

    The other is churn. MLM churn rates are well above 50%. Sources estimate more like 70-85% attrition for MK. Recruiting to build and maintain a downline must account for losing 8 out of every 10 recruits each year. You will spend far more time replacing than building!

    Let’s say your goal is to build and maintain a 100-strong downline. You and your downline will have to approach 50 times that many, or 5000 women. To replace the ones who leave, you need to approach another 4000 every year…just to “hold” your 100-strong downline. That’s 9000 cold contacts your first year, or over 170 per week…to get to 100 in your first year. Better get busy!

    And at that size downline, you are not even halfway to the size needed to be personally profitable! All that work and you and everyone in your downline is still losing money!

    MLM is a numbers game…and the numbers are significantly against you.

  4. Another great post Frosty!

    I love how Jamie keeps her directors totals so private. Why is that Jamie? Why don’t you want your consultants to see?

    Jamie also posted a list of her team leaders and her star team builders on a different page and at least TEN of them are one directors who had lost their title are are now trying for it again

    https://i.imgur.com/9F2zqPn.jpg

      • One of my biggest mistakes was when I was in Chelsea’s customer group on FB and she created a second group that was just for “lifestyle”. I tried to join that group and she blocked me.

  5. Also Jamie gets $5,000 for each sales director debut. Mary Kay has it in their rules this bonus is only paid once.

    https://imgur.com/a/recLmRn

    She also gets $1,000 for each sales director on the anniversary of their debut if they’ve had $60,000 wholesale in the last 12 months.

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