1. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it and had to be Go Give and pass it on. (Ha!) She’s making so much money off of people while making PLENTY as an NSD! And then is hoping she doesn’t lose any more Directors.

   The ship is sinking, people.

2. Great post! I’d like to shed light on something you missed. She’s not making $32 per planner, that’s gross revenue. She only likely makes 20% of those sales, which means your numbers are off by a factor of 5. She’ll need to sell over 3000 planners per month to over 9000 recurring customers to achieve her goals.

   Good luck with that!

   • It wasn’t missed. I believe her figure of $20k per month is gross revenue.

     • Indeed. Her second paragraph was a bit confusing mixing commissions with revenue…I should have read that more closely. I see she is attributing 10% commission on the planners…not sure how I missed that. My bad!

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       • I don’t think it’s 10% commission. I think it’s bad math of $20k per month or $200k per year (which should be $240k per year if it’s $20k per month).

         Either way, it’s all a hot mess and no one should be taking any sort of financial advice from her.

3. DYL = ATS
   “Amway Tools Scam”

4. True Love ?

5. what???
   $32.00 for a planner?
   A planner!

   Who is selling those? Mary Kay??
   You can one at Dollar General, Walmart it Target for under $10.00

   I can’t..

   • It’s $96-128/year depending on the size you get, and, no, it’s for sale by her personally. MK sells a datebook for the sales force, but she designed one on her own and has been selling it for almost 20 years.

     Her Instagram Stories are a real treat to see.

     • Holy crap. Does anyone buy them? I suppose they get up-line pressure to do exactly that. Amway got into trouble over similar practices…where the tools business became more lucrative than the actual MLM business when the up-line required their reps buy their up-line’s tools.

       Is she doing something similar? Are her down-line reps required to buy her custom planner?

       • No, no one is required to buy them, but the temptation to do so happens because we were always looking for “the” thing that was going to get us where we wanted to go. Dress a certain way, talk a certain way, pray a certain way (Yes, you read that correctly.). The mindset is this: “If she got to go on the Top Trip because of this, I need to use it, too.” Pam Shaw, among many others, is imitated and held at a very high regard in MK, both from the company and the sales force. It’s disgusting.

       • According to her website, she also sells “Design Your Day” Sticky Notes, 25 notes in a pack. Six bucks each. She adds, “You can order as many Sticky Notes Packs as you like!”

         Her “Breakthrough Academy 2.0-The 90 Day Planner and the Breakthrough Life Goal Setting Process” will cost you about $300, plus hotel and travel.
         – Establishing your ONE thing, your priority for this season and taking action on it.
         – CREATING affirmations and self talk to guide you to a destiny towards that 1 thing.
         – ENGAGING in healthy connections – relationships that go the distance.

       • Don’t these people have smart phones?

       • Not required by any means

     • Well, on her website which I refuse to promote – the smaller one is !32.00 — $32.00 for a small fricking 90 day planner.
       can’t make this stuff up. wow. she is so full of herself.

     • Omg i will have to check her IG page?

   • If I pay $32 for a planner, it better come with a 12 pack of diet coke, or a couple of bottles of my favorite wine, and it better do some cool tricks.. LOL. I am an Administrative Assistant, and when I order office supplies, there is one guy who orders a new planner for the upcoming year. He gets the same size and even sends me the item number in case it is discontinued or changed. Well, guess how much his planner is? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? If you said around $10, well you would be correct!!! It might be less if he doesn’t do the 16 month, but still, he only orders once a year, and I think that would be the most any person would want to pay for a planner… Geez…

6. Wait.. I think she is selling them on her website. So who is she selling for? Another MLM?
   Just went to her website.
   Omg. She is crazy.

   • Her website is so poorly designed and that picture of her you see when you first arrive? Terrifying. I get what she’s trying to do with that picture, but the laugh doesn’t reach her eyes. It looks so fake and scary.

     • Many of her videos on Stories include her smacking on gum. In almost every picture, she has gum in her mouth. Awful!

       • The gum smacking drives me crazy. I wonder what Mary Kay would say about gum chewing in public?

7. Don’t these people have smart phones?

8. I’ve never purchased an Erin Condren, but those start at $55.

   Planners are pretty trendy currently. Happy Planner, Erin Condren, Plum Paper, etc. And they get spendy. So her price point, to me, is mid-range. I have paid more for a planner, personally.

   Also, a planner is something tangible, that you can carry with you and show off. Think of her planner to be just like a cheap bauble you can win and carry around and have people ooh and ah over. that’s about all its good for.

   • $96-128/year is not what I’d call mid-range. Hers are QUARTERLY, not yearly, so she’s making a killing off people…in more ways than one.

   • Erin Condron is a quality planner. Thick pages, excellent binding, beautiful covers. Look at this one. It’s printer paper with a plastic binder. And it’s only quarterly compared to Erin being yearly.

     • On that’s right, so if you stick with her for a year it’s $128. Yeah, that’s too much.

9. ??‍♀️

10. Wow, that is spendy for a planner! I use the To-Do on my iPhone and Google Calendar.

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