I’m Surprised At All the Negativity
This man sells real estate and has a wife who is almost a DIQ. We are lucky to have him to tell us how misguided we are and how simple it is to make money in Mary Kay. The subject line of his email was “Seriously now?”
Seriously, is MK all that bad? I stumbled across your website and am surprised at all the negativity. I am a firm believer in being in business for yourself and avoiding working at a J.O.B. (Just Over Broke).
Its hard to believe that MK is evil. By all means bad people do bad things but would being a Beauty Consultant really be a bad thing. I am in a business that is challenged everyday ethically, morally and legally. Some people decide to do the wrong thing but convincing a woman to clean her face with MK as opposed to Clinique, is that bad?
Some people are to scared to do what is necessary to succeed in a business that is constantly forcing them out of their comfort zones. MK is a business and needs to be treated as one. Manage your time, money and inventory. Work it like a job and be intentional.
Reviewing how much in commission you make by recruiting other people into MK does not convince me that it is better to recruit than it is to sell. True MLM or pyramid schemes typically make it better to recruit than to sell. In MK you make more by selling than by recruiting. And the love checks are nice but don’t start rolling in until your recruits start selling. So I don’t see a scheme here.
Nothing in life comes easy especially when it comes to convining people you have just met to book an appointment to have some one try and sell you cleansers and make up you didn’t know you needed. I feel that some women go into it with their eyes closed and with unrealistic expectations. I think women need to study a little about business in general before going into one with MK. “Everyone should go into the grocery business first before doing anything else, because if you don’t sell what you have the stinking rotten inventory reminds you very quickly that you bought too much.” I don’t know who said that quote but it is a favorite of mine.
The number one mistake with small business is that they over buy their inventory when they first get started. This is true with Mary Kay. That is the only bad thing I have ever seen from MK is convincing new people to buy upwards of $3000 of inventory to start with. Start small and grow your business as it needs to.
Back to the negativity, I believe negative people tend to attract negative people and positive people attract other positive people. Your blog sure has its negative attractant on. Be positive and positive things happen. I am sure there are horror stories about every door-to-door sales company, work at home business, franchise and network marketing company out there, but I know there are also positive ones. Business is business, the market takes it toll everyday on those who don’t work their businesses. 9 out of 10 small businesses fail, so why do people think that their first one will be a success. Plan to start 10 then the odds will favor you.
Just so you know two of my sister-in-laws and my sister have joined MK one bought $800 in start up inventory and has been selling $100-$200 a month in product. The other bought close to $5000 in start up inventory and with in 3 months called it quits. My sister only got the starter kit. None of them really should have joined because they are not business minded people but that was their choice. My wife recruited all of them into MK.
My wife is planning to go into DIQ this month. I am not biased either way on Mary Kay, I am a business man and can see opportunity in most things. Mary Kay works when the consultants work and like wise it fails when they don’t. That’s business. I hope you can use your website to help people get over being a MK consultant and get back to working for someone else. Everybody needs to find their role in life and for some its working for others. Its not a bad thing, its just who they are.
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Well, SOMEbody got himself a copy of Mansplaining for Dummies for Christmas.
You know, upon reading this more closely, I’m convinced it’s the wife writing while pretending to be her husband in the hopes that a man’s words will shut us all up. It didn’t work, because I did a full bloviation below.
It’s definitely a woman writing. Far too many MLM buzzwords in the mix for starters.
“it’s the wife writing”
I agree. For one thing, there aren’t many men who would take the time to write to PT to defend MK. Most of them would prefer their wives QUIT.
OMG Pop, nice find. I bet you’re right.
On the Internet, no one knows you’re a dog.
That’s an old Internet saying. I remind myself of it often.
So much Mary Kay copy pasta in that post. But these need to be corrected:
“And the love checks are nice but don’t start rolling in until your recruits start selling.”
Should read:
“And the love checks are nice but don’t start rolling in until your recruits start ordering.”
Therein lies the problem. I don’t take issue with folks selling MLM products so long as the buyer is not purchasing out of pity, and the seller is honest about the efficacy of the product and does not recruit. But this is not what is being sold in MLM. These folks are selling an elusive “opportunity” based on a lie. A “dream” that is really a nightmare.
“In MK you make more by selling than by recruiting.”
The scant few who are making any real money in Mary Kay are not doing so by personally selling Mary Kay products. More than 99% of MLM participants lose money. If you cloned the most successful MK rep and filled the MK ranks with those clones, the loss rates would not change. These loss rates are built into the system.
In real companies, it is possible for all participants to make money. In MLMs like Mary Kay, 996 out of 1000 participants will lose money, no matter how hard they work.
“In MK you make more by selling than by recruiting.”
But the problem is that as a consultant, you are urged to turn your customers into your recruits, thereby giving up the profit you make on their sales for the much smaller commission you’ll be paid on that former customer’s wholesale orders she places as your recruit.
And by URGED to recruit your paying customers, I mean that if you do NOT attempt to recruit your own customers you will be shamed for not “sharing the opportunity”, and anyone from your director to your national to your “sister” consultants have the official green light to recruit your customers right out from under you. So there really is no place in MK for a consultant who just wants to make money by selling only and not recruiting.
I know I sound like a broken record by bringing this point up repeatedly here, but I really want the “just selling, not recruiting” consultants to understand this. IF YOU CHOOSE TO NOT RECRUIT YOUR OWN CUSTOMERS, YOUR UPLINE WILL, UNDER THE GUISE OF “SHARING THE OPPORTUNITY”.
Wait, you admit your wife recruited your sister and sisters-in-law into Mary Kay, but “none of them really should have joined”? That’s the huge recrutiing flaw in a nutshell and you can’t even see it in your own family.
He seems to not understand business basics. I personally would not choose him to be the listing agent for any real estate of mine, based on his statements here.
There’s not much to say about this guy except that he’d better get some more listings because he’s going to be supporting his wife’s expensive hobby. But his profession did get me thinking…
“This man sells real estate and has a wife who is almost a DIQ.”
…I religiously check out all of the real estate listings in my area on Realtor.com. I’m not in the market; I just like to look. And one thing I keep my eye out for when I’m perusing the photos of a listing is a stash of Mary Kay boxes. I’ve seen this a few times, even posting a link on this board of a home for sale (and it only sold after sitting on the market here, and our market is pretty hot, so it was overpriced IMO) with a photo of one of the spare bedrooms filled with MK boxes.
‘I am in a business that is challenged everyday ethically, morally and legally.”.
Me Too & before this job I worked in the media …. 😃 ….Guess what tho in your job as with mine, you are actually state regulated to stay ethical. You may even have to complete continuing education classes every few years which includes at least part of it to be an course in business ethics, in order to keep your license. I have ever heard of one pyramid scheme being state or even federally regulated like our & most professional jobs require.
“In MK you make more by selling than by recruiting. And the love checks are nice but don’t start rolling in until your recruits start selling. So I don’t see a scheme here. ”
Really? Most 12 year olds can see the scheme here….
Also this law of attraction crap they all keep writing about has gotten old. Can’t they come up with a new argument….. Just because you are opposed to the facts and the personal experiences shared on this website doesn’t mean that this website is promoting negativity.
For the record my JOB doesn’t leave me just over broke. The reason just might be that I have no need to play keep up with all the MK ladies who are pretending to be rich and successful business owners on Instagram.
And our critic can LOSE HIS LICENSE for unethical behavior. Very few MLMers lose their positions because of unethical behavior.
cough, cough, Monique, cough.
Except that was particularly egregious unethical behavior and MK didn’t fire her until Tracy broke the story here, even though they knew about her shenanigans before then.
The normal, everyday unethical behavior is just business as usual for MLM.
“This man sells real estate and has a wife who is almost a DIQ.”—
Bonnie and Clyde?
“….but convincing a woman to clean her face with MK as opposed to Clinique, is that bad?”—
Yep, because that’s what MK ladies do…..after they serve their husbands and put on their makeup, panty hose, and skirts.
You clearly underestimate the scamming skills women consultants have, or can get through MK training. This, assuming you think they have enough brains to even learn how to be a scammer.
Most consultants work very hard at conning their fellow women, but the system only rewards the scummiest of the scum. It seems your wife is well on her way to prove what she’s capable of. Don’t forget to give her credit where credit is due.
I wonder how many credit cards his wife will open unbeknownst to him to make DIQ 🤔
Also, I’m baffled by how proudly he states that his wife recruited damn near the entire family AND admits that one of them got conned out of $5,000. “Business minded” does not equal unethical manipulation of those closest to us. I’m sure his wife loved the “love check” she received from that inventory order that now sits in SILs basement, though.
OK, Mr Real Estate, you say “MK is a business and needs to be treated as one. Manage your time, money and inventory. Work it like a job and be intentional.”
Here’s your challenge: Take your wife’s business records and fill out this spread sheet. Let us know how she’s doing. Has her income exceeded her expenses? Is her product paid for yet? Is she making more than minimum wage if you count the unbillable hours?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vltz61F3MnxUfBF_GYZgVldclWZ5Md0D-tmrLNC4Eoo/edit?hl=en_US&hl=en_US#gid=2043062527
OOPS! The spreadsheet at the link I gave first has been mangled by Google. This one has the correct pages.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12sNNkIfxvOR_ikDS_Bt6EREtysXMTFWFBton8uRGSPM/edit#gid=4
Or simply show us line 31 of your Sched C. That does not take any effort at all. Just scan and post!
We simply have to make the area around this site less messy. Look just how many people
“stumble” upon the site! Oopsie.
Trip hazard!
The more I read of this, the more I’n convinced that this is actually Ms DIQ herself writing as her husband, because obviously as women we’ll instantly defer to some pearls of manly wisdom. Well, ::cracks knuckles:: welcome to 2023 and hello from a grouchy feminist. I’m also going to keep a running tally of the MK cliches as I go, because I suspect he swiped his wife’s “Mary Kay Cliche of the Day” as well.
“Seriously, is MK all that bad? I stumbled across your website…”
::facepalm:: Another stumbler. Do we need a ramp or something around here? A moat and portcullis?
“… and am surprised at all the negativity. I am a firm believer in being in business for yourself [1] and avoiding working at a J.O.B. (Just Over Broke).[2]”
In MK or any MLM, you are not in business for yourself. You are a contracted reseller of the company’s merchandise. You are not allowed to advertise how you want, sell wherever you want, or sell your business to someone else. MK can terminate your contract for any reason at any time, or even pull the rug out from under whole countries (Australia and New Zealand).
Does your husband own his own real estate agency? If not, you’re do you look down upon him for working a J.O.B. and not venturing out on his own?
“Its hard to believe that MK is evil.[3] By all means bad people do bad things [4] but would being a Beauty Consultant really be a bad thing. [5]”
Your train of thought seems to be “bad people do bad things. You think becoming an IBC is a bad thing, therefore you think all IBcs are bad.” That’s a crummy syllogism and not what anyone here is saying. Yes, becoming an IBC is bad you’ve signed on to a pyramid scheme where you’ll be encouraged to buy inventory you can’t sell/don’t want/can’t afford, recruit your own customers into being your competition and diluting your own potential customer pool, and work endless hours trying to make ends meet (and failing). The IBCs themselves are innocent and start out with the best of intentions. It’s the unethical recruiters, directors and so on up the line who are doing the bad things.
“I am in a business that is challenged everyday ethically, morally and legally.”
Is your husband selling real estate to the mob or what here??
“Some people decide to do the wrong thing [6, also a repeat of 4] but convincing a woman to clean her face with MK as opposed to Clinique, is that bad? [7]”
It’s the “convincing” part that’s not right. If the customer wants to try MK or already uses it, fine. But how often have you heard someone say, “I won’t shop at that store anymore. Those pushy salespeople don’t leave you alone for a minute!”
“Some people are to scared to do what is necessary to succeed in a business [8] that is constantly forcing them out of their comfort zones.[9] MK is a business and needs to be treated as one.[10] Manage your time, money and inventory.[11] Work it like a job and be intentional.[12]”
Dang, five in a row. This is what convinced me that this is actually the wife writing this.
WHile you’re here, read the archives going back over 16 years, which have tons of stories of people who wanted to succeed, forced themselves out of their comfort zones, treated their “business” seriously, did everything the MK way, and still wound up in massive debt, relationships ruined or almost, and their self-esteem shattered. Directors, Cadillac drivers, Red Jackets, one who almost reached NIQ when she realized she was living a lie.
“Reviewing how much in commission you make by recruiting other people into MK does not convince me that it is better to recruit than it is to sell. True MLM or pyramid schemes typically make it better to recruit than to sell.[13]”
There are lots of subspecies of pyramid schemes, but what makes them pyramid schemes is that the people above you on the pyramid make their money when you order stuff. Period.
” In MK you make more by selling than by recruiting. And the love checks [14] are nice but don’t start rolling in until your recruits start selling.[LIAR!] So I don’t see a scheme here.”
If you can sell the tiny, overpriced for their quality, outdated, “old lady makeup” items, which is excruciatingly hard to do. And the love checks have zilcho to do with what your recruits sell; they are based purely on what inventory they ORDER. MK does not track retail sales, nor does it care what you do with it once you have it. All they want is your money. If you don’t see the scheme, it’s because you don’t want to.
“Nothing in life comes easy [15] especially when it comes to convining people you have just met to book an appointment to have some one try and sell you cleansers and make up you didn’t know you needed.[16] I feel that some women go into it with their eyes closed and with unrealistic expectations.[17] I think women need to study a little about business in general before going into one with MK.[18] “Everyone should go into the grocery business first before doing anything else, because if you don’t sell what you have the stinking rotten inventory reminds you very quickly that you bought too much.”[19] I don’t know who said that quote but it is a favorite of mine.”
Careful, DIQ, your husband camouflage is slipping. I don’t doubt that quote’s from one of the zillions of the banal, interchangable “training” materials that have been used and reused since the 60s, and it’s just as false now as it was then. Grocery stores, like other legit retailers, buy carefully based on market data, not willy-nilly just to satisfy some quota on the wholesaler’s part.
“The number one mistake with small business is that they over buy their inventory when they first get started. This is true with Mary Kay. That is the only bad thing I have ever seen from MK is convincing new people to buy upwards of $3000 of inventory to start with. Start small and grow your business as it needs to.”
Well, that’s a big point in your favor. However, your ‘wife” couldn’t have gotten into DIQ without recruiting and making enough production consistently, and it’s only going to get more important if “she” survives DIQ. So are you practicing what you preach, Ms DIQ?
“Back to the negativity, I believe negative people tend to attract negative people and positive people attract other positive people.[20] Your blog sure has its negative attractant on. Be positive and positive things happen. I am sure there are horror stories about every door-to-door sales company, work at home business, franchise and network marketing company out there, but I know there are also positive ones.[21] Business is business, the market takes it toll everyday on those who don’t work their businesses.[22] 9 out of 10 small businesses fail, so why do people think that their first one will be a success.[23] Plan to start 10 then the odds will favor you.[24]”
Yep, gotta be the wife here.
“Just so you know two of my sister-in-laws and my sister have joined MK one bought $800 in start up inventory and has been selling $100-$200 a month in product.”
Great. How many months did she manage that feat? Plus, $200 a month only means $50 a week in sales, which is pretty lame.
” The other bought close to $5000 in start up inventory and with in 3 months called it quits. My sister only got the starter kit. None of them really should have joined because they are not business minded people but that was their choice.[25] My wife recruited all of them into MK.”
Ah, I see now how you got into DIQ. So recruiting is wrong because it’s a bad way to earn money, it’s wrong to frontload because one should build up one’s inventory slowly, and yet you did both of those things and it’s THEIR fault when they fail. You suck.
“My wife is planning to go into DIQ this month. I am not biased either way on Mary Kay, I am a business man and can see opportunity in most things.”
Silence, liar.
” Mary Kay works when the consultants work and like wise it fails when they don’t.[26] That’s business. I hope you can use your website to help people get over being a MK consultant and get back to working for someone else. Everybody needs to find their role in life and for some its working for others. Its not a bad thing, its just who they are.”
Right, it’s all THEIR fault that they were lied to by you, THEIR fault that they bought too much inventory, THEIR fault that the system set them up to fail.
Well, this site has in fact helped people get over the personal and financial ruin caused by MK, and they are happier now working for someone else than they ever were on the MK hamster wheel. That’s why this site rocks and predatory, lying jerks like you suck out loud.
Oh, and 26 MK cliches, unless I missed some. Hey, huns, get some new material, willya?
Seriously, is MK all that bad?
Yes.
I stumbled across your website and am surprised at all the negativity. I am a firm believer in being in business for yourself and avoiding working at a J.O.B. (Just Over Broke).
Stumble✔
Negativity✔
Just Over Broke✔
Classic MK/MLM words. Being a DIQ in Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s company isn’t “working your own business”.
Its hard to believe that MK is evil.
Why? I have done my own research and found the whole business structure of MK and similarly structured companies to be unethical.
By all means bad people do bad things but would being a Beauty Consultant really be a bad thing.
Good people can also do bad things while bad people do good things, it isn’t a black and white situation. Being a beauty consultant isn’t inherently bad nor is selling beauty products. But the structure that Mary kay is built on is bad. That is the problem here.
I am in a business that is challenged everyday ethically, morally and legally.
That sounds like a stumbling block job for a good Christian. In fact, it sounds like an awful job for anyone, if you are having constantly having to balance your ethics and morals. Not to mention having to constantly check the legality of your actions.
Some people decide to do the wrong thing but convincing a woman to clean her face with MK as opposed to Clinique, is that bad?
From my understanding of beauty sales, the sales consultant makes a certain amount of money per hour or per week, regardless of the number of products sold. They do not have to recruit other people to be in their down-lines. There may be a quota in order to get a bonus but the consultant isn’t losing money if the customer goes to the Max Factor counter next week.
Some people are to scared to do what is necessary to succeed in a business that is constantly forcing them out of their comfort zones.
Fear is a good emotion as it stops us from putting ourselves in danger. If your instincts are screaming “Danger, Will Robinson” then stay in your comfort zone. Putting unnecessary stress on your being isn’t a good nor long term prospect for your personal well-being.
MK is a business and needs to be treated as one. Manage your time, money and inventory. Work it like a job and be intentional.
MK isn’t a business in the traditional sense. We are constantly told, it’s part-time work for executive pay; you don’t need inventory; faith, family, career.
But then (general) you are told that if you don’t work all the time, then you won’t reap the benefits. Warm chatter, cold message, fish bowls in local business, get contacts from any-one with skin.
Reviewing how much in commission you make by recruiting other people into MK does not convince me that it is better to recruit than it is to sell.
At the bottom of the MK food chain, it may pay more to simply sell. But the average director doesn’t want her down-line to keep and balance their books since that would show just how little profit is to be made once all of your expenses have been deducted.
https://www.marykay.ca/en-ca/pages/earnings-representation
Here’s the Earnings Representation for 2019 in Canada. As you can see, they only show commissions on recruits purchases and less than 2% make more than $20K per annum.
True MLM or pyramid schemes typically make it better to recruit than to sell. In MK you make more by selling than by recruiting. And the love checks are nice but don’t start rolling in until your recruits start selling. So I don’t see a scheme here.
Whoooosh! There goes the point soaring into the atmosphere. You were just so close to understanding the whole business model then you fumbled the pass.
Nothing in life comes easy especially when it comes to convining(sic) people you have just met to book an appointment to have some one try and sell you cleansers and make up you didn’t know you needed.
Convincing or conniving? Curious minds want to know.
Either way, I don’t need cousin Jenny’s neighbour’s Aunt Margaret’s friend from church phoning me up out of the blue wanting to borrow my face. It’s creepy.
Should I decide I need a make-over, I’m big enough, old enough and petty enough to make an appointment with an actual business where I will be treated as a customer not as the next mark. I’ll have some one give me a full make-over not give me blobs of crud for me to daub on my face since the MKBot isn’t allowed to.
I feel that some women go into it with their eyes closed and with unrealistic expectations.
Mary Kay has spent sixty years buffing it’s scripts to a wonderful Pink Lustre that smoothly deflects any and all concerns. These Polished Pink Predators know exactly how to lure in women and those are the ones who are saying how easy it is and playing up the expectations. It’s easy, any-one can do it!
I think women need to study a little about business in general before going into one with MK.
Having seen how many ladies who claim that they went to business school before opening their MK Biz, it appears to me that this education is needed in high school.
“Everyone should go into the grocery business first before doing anything else, because if you don’t sell what you have the stinking rotten inventory reminds you very quickly that you bought too much.” I don’t know who said that quote but it is a favorite of mine.
So, if every-one is selling food, who’s buying? It’s the same with MK. Too many sellers, not enough buyers.
I wish these people would stop trying to write the more convoluted sequel to “War And Peace” when they write these screeds.
Part two
The number one mistake with small business is that they over buy their inventory when they first get started. This is true with Mary Kay. That is the only bad thing I have ever seen from MK is convincing new people to buy upwards of $3000 of inventory to start with. Start small and grow your business as it needs to.
IF that was the only bad thing, we would be in agreement. But it isn’t. Front-loading is the best, and often only, way that an up-line makes their commissions off their recruits. You make money on what your down-line buys not what they sell. What they buy. You get your commissions on the amount of products your teams buys, your career car payments are dependant on what your team buys, it all boils down to the consultant buying.
We saw yesterday (https://www.pinktruth.com/2023/04/27/mary-kays-new-timewise-set/), directors talking about not telling your down-lines about new product launching so that they would buy the old proc=duct and have it sitting on their shelves and still have to buy the new improved formula thus a double dip for the directors to make their moolah off. Thanks to Ava Oja for dropping that little Pink Truth.
Back to the negativity, I believe negative people tend to attract negative people and positive people attract other positive people.
And welcome to the Victim Blaming.
Your blog sure has its negative attractant on. Be positive and positive things happen.
That’s called Prosperity Gospel. If you’re good enough, it works. If not, well, tough nuggies.
I am sure there are horror stories about every door-to-door sales company, work at home business, franchise and network marketing company out there, but I know there are also positive ones.
And there are plenty of blogs dedicated to the horror stories of working for McDonalds, Amazon, Wal*Mart and Disney.
Business is business, the market takes it toll everyday on those who don’t work their businesses. 9 out of 10 small businesses fail, so why do people think that their first one will be a success. Plan to start 10 then the odds will favor you.
The problem with MK and other MLMs is that unless you get in early, you stand a 1 in 100 chance of making any money. You need to have that something to stand out. According to Google Maps there are ten MKBots in a 30 minute radius of my house and I’m not in a big city.
Mary Kay sells itself on being a business any-one can run and profit off. That’s their main point of pride. Except you and I know that it doesn’t work. It doesn’t matter how much you warm chatter your cold market or how often you wear your in upside down, there are not the customers to be turned into recruits out in the wild any more. Too many people know about MLMs.
Just so you know two of my sister-in-laws and my sister have joined MK one bought $800 in start up inventory and has been selling $100-$200 a month in product.
Really, you have proof of that or is it what your wife told you.
The other bought close to $5000 in start up inventory and with in 3 months called it quits.
Wow! Your wife really knows how to treat your family. I wonder how much she earned from that. Well, we know. If your sister bought the $5000 kit, your wife earned enough to keep her rank for this month.
And if this happened in the past year, i.e. last twelve months, here’s how your family member can return what’s left to get up to 90% of her outlay refunded. https://www.pinktruth.com/returning-mary-kay-inventory/returning-your-starter-kit/
Of course, it is in your wife’s interest not to tell her this since she will lose money, but it is the moral and ethical thing to do.
My sister only got the starter kit. None of them really should have joined because they are not business minded people but that was their choice.
Choice or family peer pressure? Begging them to help her out? Did she order for them? Most, if not all MLMs tell you to recruit your closest family members into your down-line if you can.
My wife recruited all of them into MK.
Your wife took advantage of a close family relationship to manipulate them into joining, possibly even buying the starter kits herself. Either way, I find this to be unethical and immoral to profit off close family in this way.
My wife is planning to go into DIQ this month.
Good luck with that. I’m sure her NSD is delighted.
I am not biased either way on Mary Kay, I am a business man and can see opportunity in most things.
I doubt that you are a business man, or if you are, you are not very savvy. You certainly haven’t researched the company very well. Or the business model of MLMs in general.
Mary Kay works when the consultants work and like wise it fails when they don’t.
I love the small of Victim Blaming in the morning.
That’s business. I hope you can use your website to help people get over being a MK consultant and get back to working for someone else.
https://www.pinktruth.com/returning-mary-kay-inventory/returning-your-starter-kit/
Here’s how to get your money back, sister in law. This man’s wife won’t tell you that you can do it but we will.
Everybody needs to find their role in life and for some its working for others. Its not a bad thing, its just who they are.
Blah, blah, blah.. I know from the why this is written it’s a MKBot cosplaying a businessman™. Far too many buzz words and it doesn’t feel like a man’s tone at all. I feel sorry for the woman that she roped into spending $5000 and I hope she gets her money back.
Ahhh… Fridays. How I love thee and the whimsy of people who just stumble into this wonderful site.
I vote for a portcullis, moat, and some kind of creature to warn people away. Maybe a dragon. Or a troll.
A sphinx that requires you to answer anti-MLM riddles to gain entry.
I play D&D. There are some great monsters in the Monster Manual that could work for just this. Don’t roll a natural 20 thinking you’re going to seduce the dragon, because as your DM (dungeon mistress), I will flip a coin, heads or tails. You’re either top or bottom. *evil laugh*
A schedule C is required doe entry!
Anyone who uses the phrase “J.O.B. (Just Over Broke)” is an MLM-er. No one else says that. The myriad other phrases right out of the MLM Defense Handbook are there, too.
Negativity
Comfort zone
Work it like a job
Be intentional
Barf.
This was either written by the wife or by a mansplaining husband who’s in Amway (or some other MLM) and is an MLM True Believer™.
Whoever wrote it probably claimed “real estate” because many huns think real estate sales is just like MLM.
Well sure, don’t real estate agents recruit their clients to become realtors and competitors? And those products sure do fly off the shelves! Good think you bought inventory
I’d love to engage, Colleen, but I have to concentrate on keeping my food down after reading “Be intentional” more than once.
I mean, barf.
“Work it like a job”
So actually selling a product people want rather than buying inventory to hang out in your basement to get a cheap prize?
Real training on the products.
No love bombing at a business meeting.
1. Looks like we have to make the bumpers bigger if even this big strong man is “stumbling” across this site. 😂
2. Not everyone who has a job is “just over broke”. Stop it.
3. Being in Mary Kay is not having a “small business” by any definition.
4. My mother is in real estate and I don’t hear her complaining about moral ethical and legal challenges. Maybe you’re doing it wrong.
5. Mary Kay reps themselves tout that recruiting is where the “big girl money” is. Nobody in Mary Kay makes more money from their personal retail sales than they do from the activity of their downline.
6. Speaking of ethical and legal behavior, Mary Kay operates in flagrant disregard of the FTC’s Direct Selling Rule about sales. The Direct Selling Rule states that reps’ sales commissions must be based on their actual retail sales to outside customers. Mary Kay does not require it’s reps to present proof of actual sales. They base “sales” commissions on how much the rep and their downline order wholesale from the company.
Take your condescending mansplaining elsewhere.
To your point #1, I would refer you to my comment on yesterday’s article:
Maybe the MK copy writers are the same people who tell every PT Critic to claim they “stumbled onto your site.”</i.
It was nice of this person to prove my point. 😉
…and I blew the formatting.
I’ll go stand in the corner for awhile.
My first reaction: This is not a man. It’s a Mary Kay consultant pretending to be a man.
Leave Clinique out of it. I’ve been using Clinique for decades and not once have I been love bombed or harassed by them, unless they sent me discount codes (which I accept gladly).
Clinique has the same packaging from back when I was a teenager, there’s none of this change that MK goes thru regularly to boost sales.
Also? Clinique never ruined my face. I used to wear MK back in the day but the change to the minerals made me quit due to the eye infections from the eye shadow and the blisters the mineral foundation left on my face-I now have a talc allergy because of it.
As if a “husband” would even mention Clinique. LOL
This isn’t the first time a consultant wrote to PT pretending to be a husband or S.O.
Mansplaining!