You’re Robbing People of an Opportunity
I want to thank you. I found your site searching for information on how to help one of my consultants. I have spent the past days reading it. I commend you for the professional look of the site. It seems that you are uncovering the “truths” that Mary Kay is trying to hide. If I were a new consultant, I would be swayed.
If your goal was to help women by creating a place where women can express their frustrations, I could see the value of that. Mary Kay is not perfect. There are real issues that you have tried to bring to light – but your site has become a place for women grow their disdain and hurt into something far more damaging to them and to those around them. Was that your intent?
Do doctors close wounds, creating a “community” inside for the wound to fester and support itself, or do they open it up (a painful and slow process) and allow healing to take place?
The “truth” is, Tracy, you are robbing people of the opportunity to do this business correctly because of your experience. It is both selfish and incredibly sad. It is not unbiased. It is not fair.
You are throwing the baby out with the bath water.
I am genuinely sorry that you had a bad experience with Mary Kay. And if you knew me, you would know that I really mean that. But think of this – Now, you are truly helping no one. Just like before, when you were almost an NSD and turned a blind eye, by your own admission, to your team members ordering $30,000 to $50,000 in product that she was not selling. You clearly carry guilt in your heart for that or you wouldn’t have shared it. Forgive yourself. Work with the company to create a culture where that kind of practice does not persist. Or, just move on.
Please don’t continue to damage other people by holding onto your pride and rallying around other women who agree with you so you can all attempt to feel better. That solves…nothing.
I appreciate that not everyone in Mary Kay is good, or moral. Your site has become a breeding ground of ex-consultants who would rather hold onto their hurt than make a better choice and move forward. It has strengthened me as a consultant committed to the ideals and morals that I choose to hold on to, and for that, I thank you. I can now confidently move forward building a business using those as my guide.
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“Work with the company to create a culture where that doesn’t exist.” [ordering $30-50K of inventory that she won’t sell.]
The problem, is consultants buying products they won’t sell is the entire business plan of MK Corp. That is “doing this business correctly” for corporate.
MK Corporate DOES NOT CARE if products are sold to another consumer after being sold to the “consultant”. If they cared about actual retail sales, they would track & reward retail sales for unit awards, queens court of sales, cars, and Star Consultant prizes.
If they cared about retail sales, the wholesale price would be much lower than 50% of suggested retail. Buy for $1/sell for $2 is a terrible margin for true retail sales.
If they cared about retail sales, they would limit the number of consultants to what the local/ national economy could actually support, not encourage the recruiting of thousands of new consultants. Why does Mary Kay have 2.4 Million consultants in the U.S., but Target only has 1,958 stores in the U.S? Is Mary Kay really that more popular than Target?
This lady included every lame cliche that came to her mind. Plus, this:
“The “truth” is, Tracy, you are robbing people of the opportunity to do this business correctly”…
…lol this critic would be the type to say “nobody held a gun to your head” to make you sign up or buy inventory, but when Tracy publishes a website that shares her and others’ opinions, and certainly isn’t forced on ANYONE to read it, TRACY is committing robbery?
The hypocrisy of the critics is just off the charts.
Ps, I’ll be waiting patiently for my hard-earned Ridiculous Downvotes ™. I’ve been on a roll lately!
I have to agree…only a complete simpleton would spend hundreds of dollars on inventory with no idea who they will sell it to.
It may be dumb, but you underestimate the power of brainwashing. I’m curious, do you tithe? Or perhaps send money to people like Joel Olsteen or Peter Popoff?
OP, there is a reason no Mary Kay downline is profitable as a whole. Coralrose shed some light on this. It is now up to you to show how any pay-to-play endless-chain scheme like Mary Kay can ever be profitable as a whole.
Spoiler alert: You can’t. This is why folks here at Pink Truth are speaking out. Folks like you use the term “opportunity” to describe a system that is designed to create loss in the downline for the benefit of the up-line and the corporation.
Note: Traditional sales models can and do produce positive income for everyone involved. MLM schemes like Mary Kay simply cannot do this.
If is dishonest to portray a system incapable of creating a profitable down-line as an “opportunity”, except maybe for the founders and the folks at the very top. Everyone else gets screwed…by design.
Oh, come on. If you were really fixing to “help” your consultant (aka, keep her immured in the Mary Kay Way and fire her up so that she’ll place a big order and get you a love check next month) there’s plenty of pink propaganda out there. No way you’d go to “that site” (aka this site) unless you’d heard about it somewhere and were curious.
“Just like before, when you were almost an NSD and turned a blind eye, by your own admission, to your team members ordering $30,000 to $50,000 in product that she was not selling.”
Tracy was a Red Jacket when she left Mary Kay. The almost-NSD was someone else entirely. Are you just going off what you’ve been told by your upline, or are you twisting things to fit the narrative in your head?
“The “truth” is, Tracy, you are robbing people of the opportunity to do this business correctly because of your experience. It is both selfish and incredibly sad. It is not unbiased. It is not fair.”
The truth (no scare quotes neccessary) is that the only way to do this business “correctly” (sarcasm quotes, not scare quotes) is to ditch your conscience and lie like a rug in the hopes of attracting someone who hasn’t heard your spiel yet. Because the only way to advance in MK or any other pyramid scheme is through recruitment. Recruitment is required to go from consultant to red jacket to DIQ. Recruitment and frontloading are what make you money, because no one wants MK products unless you’re darn near giving them away for free.
All your appeals to emotion and attempts to paint Tracy and the other regulars here as bitter has-beens brooding over their failure don’t mean diddly. Mary Kay’s own publications, including earnings, don’t lie. The Canadian income disclosures don’t lie. The fact that there has never been one profitable downline in MK in its 60 year history can’t be covered up with angst and cliches.
“Do doctors close wounds, creating a “community” inside for the wound to fester and support itself, or do they open it up (a painful and slow process) and allow healing to take place?”
Pul-leeze. It’s the MK upline that slaps a sparkly pink heart Band-Aid on top of a deep festering wound, because pus and gore and decay are just so icky and unpleasant. Crisis of conscience? Listen to this NSD and try to convince yourself that you’re really doing this for all the right reasons! Marriage in trouble? Read this anecdote about Mary Kay and don’t wonder why she burned through so many husbands! Broke? Just book more parties and sell more!
When the victim is ready to rip off that Band-aid, which by now is really gnarly and stinky and there’s green stuff oozing out from under, it’s the people here who act as the doctors, giving the person encouragement to rip that sucker off, standing by with the debridement and antibiotics and drains and gauze of common sense, sound financial advice, emotional support, and and encouragement as long as it’s needed.
Thank you, though, for writing a letter with good grammar and sentence structure and without excessive punctuation.
I want to thank you. I found your site searching for information on how to help one of my consultants. I have spent the past days reading it.
Welcome. Though I am surprised that one of the your fabled Mary Kay scripts have failed you.
I commend you for the professional look of the site.
Yes, we’ve seen the pale pastel on paler pastel sites favoured by MKBots.
It seems that you are uncovering the “truths” that Mary Kay is trying to hide.
I’m happy that you are acknowledging that Mary Kay is hiding some of the more unpalatable things about this business.
If I were a new consultant, I would be swayed.
Good, that’s what we want.Newbies to see both sides before making a decision.
If your goal was to help women by creating a place where women can express their frustrations, I could see the value of that.
And here comes the victim blaming.
Mary Kay is not perfect.
MK is deeply and fundamentally flawed.
There are real issues that you have tried to bring to light – but your site has become a place for women grow their disdain and hurt into something far more damaging to them and to those around them. Was that your intent?
Talking, well typing about something that has hurt a person does not “grow disdain and hurt”, it helps release those feeling. It’s like therapy.
Do doctors close wounds, creating a “community” inside for the wound to fester and support itself, or do they open it up (a painful and slow process) and allow healing to take place?
Yes, they close wounds. Watching any medical show tells you that. They use antibiotics to cure any infections.
The “truth” is, Tracy, you are robbing people of the opportunity to do this business correctly because of your experience.
But you are looking for a way to do your business correctly because your Polished Pink Scripts have failed you. Who is at fault here?
It is both selfish and incredibly sad. It is not unbiased. It is not fair.
Holy Leaps Of Logic, Batman!
Explaining what happened isn’t selfish.
Pointing out omissions isn’t sad.
Printing screen shots of what Mary Kay leaders are talking about isn’t unbiased.
Showing the Income Disclosure is very fair. Women have the right to see exactly what they are planning to get into.
You are throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Nope.
I am genuinely sorry that you had a bad experience with Mary Kay. And if you knew me, you would know that I really mean that.
I don’t feel that you are sorry for Tracy or any one else here. You are angry because we have planted a small seed in your mind.
But think of this – Now, you are truly helping no one.
Strange that you think that when we have had posts talking about how Pink Truth helped with not starting into this business, how we helped women get their money back, etc..
Just like before, when you were almost an NSD and turned a blind eye, by your own admission, to your team members ordering $30,000 to $50,000 in product that she was not selling. You clearly carry guilt in your heart for that or you wouldn’t have shared it.
I don’t recall this story from Tracy. Maybe it was one of the other commentators. Or maybe it was a screenshot from one of the Facebook groups. Tracy isn’t the only author here.
Forgive yourself. Work with the company to create a culture where that kind of practice does not persist. Or, just move on.
If you were to read more here, you would see that the multi-married named Mary Kay company doesn’t care how much is ordered. That’s why you or any-one else is going to change the company culture. Try it for yourself and see.
And we have moved on. We are just not obliged to please you by keeping quiet about injustices.
Please don’t continue to damage other people by holding onto your pride and rallying around other women who agree with you so you can all attempt to feel better. That solves…nothing.
It solves a lot actually. By rallying with like-minded people, slavery was abolished, women and men were allowed to vote on equal terms, the list goes on.
I appreciate that not everyone in Mary Kay is good, or moral.
Good. Start by changing them, not us. They are the ones we are trying to shine the light on.
Your site has become a breeding ground of ex-consultants who would rather hold onto their hurt than make a better choice and move forward.
Using our experiences to illuminate the flaws in “your small business” isn’t holding on to hurt, it’s trying to help other women and men from falling prey to a predatory company.
It has strengthened me as a consultant committed to the ideals and morals that I choose to hold on to, and for that, I thank you. I can now confidently move forward building a business using those as my guide.
I hope your morals and ideals remain intact. However since you already have at least one consultant under you, it looks like you are already happy to compromise them.
“Do doctors close wounds, creating a “community” inside for the wound to fester and support itself, or do they open it up (a painful and slow process) and allow healing to take place?”
Yes, we providers close wounds to help with healing through the use of sutures, staples, skin grafts, and more. Yes, we also leave SOME wounds open to heal from the inside out, We might use a wound vac that provides a negative pressure environment that prohibits bacterial growth and promotes healing. We use a number of medications, specialty dressings, and even sheets of medical honey to heal wounds. Is the process “painful and slow?” Not always. Usually, we can get our patients to a point where their wounds have plenty of granulation tissue and are healing with minimal pain and discomfort. (By the way, if you or anyone else decide you want to make medical terminology similies, be sure you know what you are talking about. Medical shows are not the most accurate, and this nurse here will run circles around you.)
However, we do not just slap a pretty dressing over something festering and necrotic and think happy bee-lief thoughts to make it heal. MK does that, has done that, and continues to do that. When there are issues (aka festering wounds), they offer a sparkly new prize. “Look over here at this cheap-a$$ bauble!” They change the goalposts because their consultomers cannot meet the actual requirements through legitimate means. Corporate turns a blind eye to so many wrongs until their hand is forced, like Monique Anthony and her legal issues with financial fraud. MK is the SOURCE of that festering, necrotic wound. They are the reason why so many women and men come here to heal after ridding themselves of the plague of MK.
Why are you Googling for ideas to help your consultant? 🤨 Doesn’t the almighty Mary Kay have everything you need to know about how to build your business? Your sponsor? Director? Anyone?
And calls the consultant hers like she is property or something.
*yawns*
How y’all doing?
*yawns*
Wash and repeat.
How y’all doing ?