1. Now wait just a second here. She looks back on her MK days, so she’s not in MK anymore. But they were the best days of her life and the best sales training ever. Can’t have been that great because she never made NSD. After all, the secret to success is working the career path. So there’s no reason to listen to this MK FAILURE and every reason to listen to the regulars here, who were successful on the outside and miserable inside.

   And come retirement, us workaday people at least GET pensions while MLM leaves you with diddly squat.

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2. I am sorry that some of you purchased WAY more inventory than you were willing to sell, but it just goes to show that you CAN NOT BUY your way into Mary Kay, which apparently many of you were trying to without doing the work.

   Then why are we constantly getting the message “You can’t sell from an empty wagon” or “we need the production to get OUR Cadillac” ? The system is rigged to keep women buying and not selling.

   You have to work the career path and MK is far more legitimate and a far better opportunity than anything Corporate America has to offer or all the BS Corporate America will ask you to do and never comnpensating (sic) you for it either.

   I seriously doubt this statement. Some companies are better than others with regard to career development and financial recompense but that beats working for a company where less than two percent of it’s employees are guaranteed to earn more than $255 per annum. Canadian income disclosure for 2020.
   https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F7p73s2hz0bi81.jpg

   I look back at my Mary Kay days as very positive and some of the BEST sales training I have ever received and I have been to ALL the seminars.

   Mary Kay Pink coloured glasses do that for you. But you wasted all that money going to seminars, presumably from the early 1970’s??

   Mary Kay and other direct sales companies are about THE BEST thing going out there and sorry if the rest of you want to sit behind a desk and retire on 1/3 of what you are now making, but not me.

   Yet again, figures from people who “work” for Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s company show differently.
   https://www.pinktruth.com/2023/02/20/lynnea-tate-area-top-sales-directors/

   Other multi level marketing companies show a similar rate of return. You won’t be earning much money now and there is very little chance of you retiring and swimming in pools of golden coins a la Scrooge McDuck.

   I WISH that I was getting a percentage of EVERYONE I have ever trained in Corporate America!!!!!!!!!

   Somehow I doubt you were a successful sales trainer in Corporate America.

   ALL of you are really sad and TOO BAD that some of you sold stuff back to MK, you can NOT ever join again.

   I see no signs that any one here wants to go back to such a soul-sucking company.

   At least I know I can always go back (if cosmetics were to ever become my thing, which sadly wasn’t)if I wanted too,

   You tried to sell something that you were not into and wondered why you failed.

   but I am with another company and doing very well at it.

   You did not learn anything from your efforts in Mary Kay. so you fell into the same trap and are desperately trying to claim it’s working this time.

   I was looking for an old friend in MK and ran across this pathetic MK bashing blog.

   Welcome to the Internet where sites exist to point out the flaws in nearly every multi-billion, multi-national company. Even those which try to pretend that they are small women-owned businesses.

   This is really a sad, sad site.

   In my thirty plus years of being on the internet, I have rarely seen such a positive site full of supportive and empathic people as Pink Truth. Sad, it is not!

   Get a life all of you. Please.

   I have a life. It’s not totally what I expected but it’s still pretty good. More importantly, I’m not sitting up late at night desperately trying to sell over-priced goods so some-one else can get a car while I’m in debt for the privilege.

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3. >>You have to work the career path and MK is far more legitimate and a far better opportunity than anything Corporate America has to offer or all the BS Corporate America will ask you to do and never comnpensating you for it either.>>

   Oh dear this applies to me .I have been in corporate sales in BS corporate America for a little over 30 years. I sell actual products, and receive fair and some lucrative commissionS and you say a better opportunity would be for me “sell”over priced makeup that hammers into my profit margin (hey Kaybot, you know what a profit margin is?) and really my true only way to see any money is to recruit others into this con of a so-called career opportunity and get them to purchase boatloads of inventory a thing you say is something a true Mary Katbot would never ask you to do.

   so thanks but no, I’ll stick with corporate BS America

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4. “…you CAN NOT BUY your way into Mary Kay, which apparently many of you were trying to without doing the work.”

   There is evidence out there of PLENTY of women who HAVE bought their way into their positions, including Jamie, Kimberly, and Sommer. Tracy has Jamie’s YouTube video where she fake-cries about how much people spent so she could become an NSD.

   “…MK is far more legitimate and a far better opportunity than anything Corporate America has to offer or all the BS Corporate America will ask you to do and never comnpensating you for it either.
   “I WISH that I was getting a percentage of EVERYONE I have ever trained in Corporate America!!!!!!!!!”

   I call BS on this. I worked in Corporate America in a private healthcare system, and now I work with the military (aka gubmint). In both systems, I have been VERY well compensated for training and precepting, and I’m better compensated in my gubmint job than ever before. I get paid cash or leave (PTO) bonuses when I teach the BLS course, precept corpsmen, and train new graduate nurses. While not a percentage like you want to claim, it’s a nice chunk of change.

   “…and retire on 1/3 of what you are now making…”

   Oh, honey! Bless your heart! My retirement is already going to be very nice, particularly as hubs and I have set things up with multiple income streams, no house payment, and more. Hubs can fully retire in 7 years (age 59), and our current standard of living will not be affected at all. As a nurse, I might never fully retire because I love what I do. I am eligible to retire from gubmint work in about 10-11 years with a full pension and investments, and again, our standard of living will be unaffected. Your argument about retiring on 1/3 of what we make is invalid.

   “Get a life all of you. Please.”

   I already have a life, thankyouverymuch. It’s actually pretty good for the most part. I’m happy, generally healthy, have a amazing circle of friends, and love the work I do. Can you say the same?

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5. “You have to work the career path and MK is far more legitimate and a far better opportunity than anything Corporate America has to offer or all the BS Corporate America will ask you to do and never compensating you for it either.”

   Interesting. With the exception of the very rare “100% commission sales job”, Corporate America “compensates” 1000 out of every 1000 salaried/hourly employees for their time on the job. Meanwhile, only 4 in 1000 participants in pay-to-play endless-chain MLM systems like Mary Kay make more than they spend. 996 of 1000 MLM participants actually LOSE money, and only a teeny tiny fraction of that lucky 4 make anything close to what a typical corporate job pays per hour worked.

   So, which one is the “BS” opportunity again? OP, you have some serious ‘splainin’ to do.

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6. “You have to work the career path and MK is far more legitimate and a far better opportunity than anything Corporate America has to offer or all the BS Corporate America will ask you to do and never comnpensating you for it either.”—

   The brainwashed MLMer is bashing Mary Kay and doesn’t even know it. Mary Kay Inc., aka Mary Kay Holding Corporation, is headquartered in Addison, TX with nearly corporate 5000 employees around the world.

   And you should see the benefits package they offer to their employees: “It starts with a generously supported and comprehensive health and welfare plan which includes medical, dental, and vision. We also invest in our people by providing a 401(k) plan and, as a privately-held company, Mary Kay offers a very generous profit-sharing program to all employee levels. And most people at Mary Kay have access to on-site fitness and health centers. As part of our commitment to employee wellness, we even provide on-site mammograms and flu shots.”

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   She also says, “….but I am with another company and doing very well at it. I was looking for an old friend in MK and ran across this pathetic MK bashing blog. This is really a sad, sad site. Get a life all of you. Please.”

   She is with another MLM company and spending her time trying to find old friends to harass and scam them into joining her new downline. This, where her friends must lose money so she can make money. Some life, and some friend she is.

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7. “all the BS Corporate America will ask you to do and never compensating you for it” … tell me about all the times your MLM has paid you for the cold calls, warm chats and looking for hot prospects, the conference calls with your Nashy-nash and the online or in person sales pitches you do. What do they pay you to attend training meetings? OH … you pay THEM for the meetings?

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8. Oh gosh. Thank you, OP, for your profound words. THIS is the critic I was waiting for, the one who finally convinced me that I made a mistake in quitting Mary Kay. The letter that was so novel, so compelling, that it refuted HUNDREDS of first-hand stories of manipulation, gaslighting and love bombing. Overturned verified numbers published by the FCC about the profit (or lack thereof) available across the board in MLMs.

   Please, OP, point me in the direction of your honest, upstanding NSD. I’ll go sign back up under her and order just enough inventory to support the level of work I am willing to do. Even if I tell that NSD I want to do MK part time, I guarantee she’ll tell me I need a full store, $5,000 inventory. All in my own best interest, of course. And if I can’t sell it in the 2-5 hours/week I have available, not to worry! We have supportive sisters like you waiting on the sidelines to assure me that it’s still all my fault. 🙄

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9. “I am sorry that some of you purchased WAY more inventory than you were willing to sell.”

   WILLING to sell?

   I think of the poor Mary Kay ladies I’ve seen at fairs, trade shows, and sympathetic retail stores, forlornly standing sentry beside their little basket of pink samples, hoping that someone, anyone, will stop and interact with them. (These are the women you avoid eye contact with because you don’t want to give them false hope.) I think of the way other women roll their eyes when they hear the name Mary Kay, because they’ve been invited to one too many sales pitch falsely described as a “free spa experience.” I think of my friend who was trying to ward off foreclosure on her home, and her cabinet full of pink boxes that no one was interested in. Then there’s the woman I met who gave a up a well-paying pharmacy job because she was robbed twice at work. She genuinely believed that she’d be earning like a champion and driving that car in just a matter of months, so she was giving it her all. I never bought from her, but I allowed her to add me to her email list. Her emails stopped coming before the year was out. I still wonder whether all that inventory left her worse off financially than she started.

   There are plenty of women who worked hard and gave it their best shot and then realized the deck was stacked against them.

   So how dare you say they weren’t WILLING to sell.

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