I Run an Honest MK Business
I am a Mary Kay Beauty Consultant and I love it! I feel so bad that many of you have experienced negative aspects of the business.
It’s very true direct marketing isn’t for everyone. I find the best candidates who end up being successful are those women who have the courage and fortitude to stand up for themselves and continue building a business at their own pace.
Growth potential is: your ability to properly and responsibly manage money, especially your business accounts; your own resourcefulness; your ability to listen, learn, and implement a tried and true marketing plan; and your survivability.
Survivability is: do you have the inner strength to hang in there when times are tough? Every business in America has problems and personnel who don’t follow the rules and behave dispicably. Mary Kay is not exclusive in that respect. There are unscrupulous people in every facet of America business.
I run an honest, upfront independent Mary Kay business. I have found I don’t need to employ predatory tactics on anyone to succeed and achieve my goals. I don’t care much what the actual prizes and gifts are monetarily worth, it matters that I am rewarded for my hard work and my time. The prizes aren’t what butters my muffin, it’s the $$$.
I have worked at other jobs in my life and at 37 have yet to find any job that has brought me such personal satisfaction as I have found in Mary Kay. I run into crabby, negative, and complaining consultants all the time. Life today in the world can be depressing and stressful enough. I don’t have any room or need to indulge in all of that. I surround my self with bright, supportive and stylish women. I find that helps when I need a lift.
How can a company founded on ideals such as, “Enriching Women’s Lives” “Faith first, Family second, and Career third” and “the Golden Rule” be so horrible as you all represent.
I have my day planned out. This way I have time for my family, my business, and my other social commitments. I’m still making $$$. Were you all forced at gunpoint to place a large inventory order. There are a lot of comments regarding pushy and forceful recruiters and sales directors. I feel if you didn’t posses the personality to stick up for youself and state with firm resolve, your business plan and that you’ll run it the way you want, then you probably weren’t cut out for this type of industry.
There are some minimums. Yes, in order to stay active you must place a minimum order every quarter. If you aren’t in a position to do that, this isn’t the business for you. I live in NY were women are generally skepitcal and jaded, but I don’t let that defeat me. Fact, women spend more money on looking good every year than anything else. If I’m not proactive and organized I won’t get a slice of that revenue, Macy’s or Sephora will.
I believe in what I sell therefore I don’t have to lie. I believe I am doing other women a favor by offering them the oppotunity to use great products and an opportunity to be happy and successful like me. I think a lot of the failure and harsh feelings here stem from the belief that the women you did or did not meet were doing you an favor. Somewhere in your business scheme and personal ego, there existed a great deal of doubt in your own sales ability, deficient conviction in the company and it’s products, and an absent strong inner voice. This is not criticism, merely observation.
I’m flawed and certainly don’t pretend to be perfect. I hope you all find peace and solice here at this website and I respect your constitutional right to speak out. I would have enormous and profound respect if you actually posted this message.
I am a Mary Kay Beauty Consultant and I love it!
Huzzah for you, I guess.
I feel so bad that many of you have experienced negative aspects of the business.
But not bad enough to stop exploiting other women.
It’s very true direct marketing isn’t for everyone.
You are correct, MLMs work on exploitation, exploitation, exploitation.
I find the best candidates who end up being successful are those women who have the courage and fortitude to stand up for themselves and continue building a business at their own pace.
And exploiting other women.
Growth potential is: your ability to properly and responsibly manage money, especially your business accounts; your own resourcefulness; your ability to listen, learn, and implement a tried and true marketing plan; and your survivability.
Did I mention the word of today? Exploitation?
Just follow our out-dated scripts and lose money.
Survivability is: do you have the inner strength to hang in there when times are tough? Every business in America has problems and personnel who don’t follow the rules and behave dispicably (sic).
But MLMs claim to be on a Mission From God ( dons sunglasses, drives off in former police-car), thus trying to reduce the harm they cause.
Mary Kay is not exclusive in that respect. There are unscrupulous people in every facet of America business.
All over the world in fact. You know since Mary Kay is a multi-national corporation.
I run an honest, upfront independent Mary Kay business.
I’m having to take your word for this. But given MLMs are dishonest in their very nature, I find it hard to bee-LIE-ve.
I have found I don’t need to employ predatory tactics on anyone to succeed and achieve my goals.
Then you are not running a Mary Kay business since those tactics are heavily enforced.
I don’t care much what the actual prizes and gifts are monetarily worth, it matters that I am rewarded for my hard work and my time. The prizes aren’t what butters my muffin, it’s the $$$.
Here’s the Canadian Income disclosure. See the monies you can make.
https://imgur.com/a/mary-kay-income-disclosure-2023-LFdntKd
I have worked at other jobs in my life and at 37 have yet to find any job that has brought me such personal satisfaction as I have found in Mary Kay.
Erm, OK.
I run into crabby, negative, and complaining consultants all the time. Life today in the world can be depressing and stressful enough.
If Mary Kay Wagner Rogers Eckman Weaver Louis Miller Hallenbeck Ash’s company is s wonderful as all the other PTCs talk about , where are all of these Negative Nellies coming from?
I don’t have any room or need to indulge in all of that. I surround my self with bright, supportive and stylish women. I find that helps when I need a lift.
Sounds tiring.
How can a company founded on ideals such as, “Enriching Women’s Lives” “Faith first, Family second, and Career third” and “the Golden Rule” be so horrible as you all represent.
Because those ideals are not followed by the over-whelming numbers of women who “pay to play” being businesswomen.
I have my day planned out.
Most people do, it’s called being organised.
This way I have time for my family, my business, and my other social commitments.
Well done on Adulting 101.
I’m still making $$$. Were you all forced at gunpoint to place a large inventory order.
Whoever would have guessed victim-blaming????
There are a lot of comments regarding pushy and forceful recruiters and sales directors.
That’s because there are a lot of those who exploited their down-lines for short-term profit.
I feel if you didn’t posses the personality to stick up for youself (sic) and state with firm resolve, your business plan and that you’ll run it the way you want, then you probably weren’t cut out for this type of industry.
Ladies, gents, let’s not blame the system responsible, OK!
There are some minimums. Yes, in order to stay active you must place a minimum order every quarter.
But, but, but.. I was told their were no quotas! Who is lying?
If you aren’t in a position to do that, this isn’t the business for you.
I was told Find A Way, Make A Way. Is that a lie too?
I live in NY were women are generally skepitcal (sic) and jaded, but I don’t let that defeat me. Fact, women spend more money on looking good every year than anything else.
More than food, utilities, rent/mortgage or transportation?? I find that hard to bee-LIE-ve.
If I’m not proactive and organized I won’t get a slice of that revenue, Macy’s or Sephora will.
Those companies offer what people want at prices they are willing to pay.
I believe in what I sell therefore I don’t have to lie.
A good proportion of what you have written are lies, distortions or repeated false facts.
I believe I am doing other women a favor by offering them the oppotunity (sic) to use great products and an opportunity to be happy and successful like me.
Point on the Income Disclosure where your success lays.
I think a lot of the failure and harsh feelings here stem from the belief that the women you did or did not meet were doing you an favor.
Any Mary Kay woman I do not meet is definitely doing me a favour.
Somewhere in your business scheme and personal ego, there existed a great deal of doubt in your own sales ability, deficient conviction in the company and it’s products, and an absent strong inner voice.
The business scheme is the same on you follow, book, sell, recruit. If it’s that simple why isn’t there over six billion people selling Mary Kay?
But, please, continue blaming other people.
This is not criticism, merely observation.
Nope, it’s criticism and victim-blaming.
I’m flawed and certainly don’t pretend to be perfect.
Really?? You are certainly full of yourself.
I hope you all find peace and solice (sic) here at this website and I respect your constitutional right to speak out.
Ma’am, countries outside the USA have free speech too.
I would have enormous and profound respect if you actually posted this message.
well, it got posted and now we are using our free speech to mock it.
“I’m still making $$$.”
Prove it. Sched C or it did not happen.
“Yes, in order to stay active you must place a minimum order every quarter. If you aren’t in a position to do that, this isn’t the business for you.”
And there it is. If you can’t sustain an aggregate, recurring loss, this is not for you. Why do you think the qualifying minimums in MLM are greater than any sales rep can use or sell? Those minimums are set to drive cash flow from the sales force to the company. This and front-loading are the top two cash flow drivers in MLMs like Mary Kay. Retail sales? Not so much. The value set by the MLM for up-front and/or recurring orders is arbitrary, but effective for driving corporate cash flow, while both are harmful to the sales force.
Neither is tied to retail sales demand, which is why MLMs tend to oversupply the sales force, thus minimizing demand. This is what makes it so hard to sell these overpriced products to anyone outside the sales force. Everyone is ordering and selling, but no one is buying.
Pay to play is just one hallmark MLMs share with naked pyramid schemes. Just don’t call MLM a pyramid scheme!
PTC, show us your sched C for the last 3 years to prove us wrong. Even NSDs have a much smaller than advertised number on line 31 of their sched C. Fake it til you make it, right PTC? Honest business folks don’t have to lie about their success. Why do MLMers?
Anyone playing Kbot Cliche Bingo is winning hand over fist.
She ain’t showing us her Schedule C. She won’t even bother to give us a number. I think every time a Mary Kay seller contacts this site, maybe once has one said how (un)profitable they are. The silence is deafening.
I’m going to go ahead and speak for many when I say that you can be as organized and proactive as you like, but we are still shopping at Sephora and Macy.
It’s getting really boring to hear beauty consultants repeating the same damn script.
I guess my 10 years in the company with 5 as a director, I need a beauty consultant to tell me I just had a “bad experience “. Oh lady, If you only could hear what directors are trained at new director education week…
“How can a company founded on ideals such as, “Enriching Women’s Lives” “Faith first, Family second, and Career third” and “the Golden Rule” be so horrible as you all represent.”
Easily. It’s called virtue signaling. Manipulation. Lying. Greed. I could go on.
“Were you all forced at gunpoint to place a large inventory order. ” … Lying for profit is called FRAUD and is just as illegal as armed robbery. Bernie Madoff never used a gun, and went to jail for multiple felonies.
I am a Mary Kay Beauty Consultant and I love it! I feel so bad that many of you have experienced negative aspects of the business.
I was going to thank you (sincerely) for not starting off with the usual Friday insults, and for acknowledging that some people here have indeed had bad experiences with Mary Kay. Then I got to this:
I find the best candidates who end up being successful are those women who have the courage and fortitude to stand up for themselves…
and this:
Growth potential is: your ability to properly and responsibly manage money, especially your business accounts; your own resourcefulness; your ability to listen, learn, and implement a tried and true marketing plan; and your…inner strength to hang in there when times are tough…”
and I realized that, true to form, you were indeed here to insult people, or at least, to let them know exactly what their personal failings are.
Were you all forced at gunpoint to place a large inventory order.
When someone holds a gun to your head, at least you know where they stand. You know they’re not a friend, and their intentions are not benevolent. When someone compliments you on how sharp you are, and asks you to meet for coffee, their true intentions are a bit harder to discern.
I had SO MUCH TO SAY lololol. Was on quite the rant, and took a break, so dropped into the Discussion Group.
To Quote Myself from there: Zippity Do Dah Zippity ayyyy My oh My COULD BE THE END OF MARY KAY!!!!!
Let’s ring in 2030 pink bubble free!
That’s allll folks!!!! xoxoxoxoxoxo
I loved my job (I’m retired now) because it was never ‘faith first’. I went to work to do my work and get paid fairly, NOT to hear religious dogma. I believe in separation of faith and work and find it offensive that MK is shoving faith first down recruits’ throats.
Hi everyone,
I got two outsider-questions:
what is the meaning of being a “star consultant”?
Is a sell director owning twenty, thirty star consultants consistently profiting(in terms of money -the glory is already clear)?
Thank you for a Feedback.
“How can a company founded on ideals such as, “Enriching Women’s Lives” “Faith first, Family second, and Career third” and “the Golden Rule” be so horrible as you all represent.”
Those ideals are great talking points for attracting willing victims into this MLM scheme, but they are not the foundation of this so-called business.